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	<description>Obstacles, Observations and Opinions of an Automotive Internet Sales Manager</description>
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		<title>By: CuttingEdge</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/autotrader-i-did-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-13573</link>
		<dc:creator>CuttingEdge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should use Trading-In.com. Much less expensive and more powerful than Autotrader. Granted they are brand new and are just starting but I imagine once they start growing they will be the #1 dealer used vehicle alignment an sales tool on the net. Check them out at www.trading-in.com. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should use Trading-In.com. Much less expensive and more powerful than Autotrader. Granted they are brand new and are just starting but I imagine once they start growing they will be the #1 dealer used vehicle alignment an sales tool on the net. Check them out at <a href="http://www.trading-in.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.trading-in.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/autotrader-i-did-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-4648</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cars.com now have a site http://www.freebo.com, they allow private seller to list their cars for FREE. is that means they will only focus on cars.com to make money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cars.com now have a site <a href="http://www.freebo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.freebo.com</a>, they allow private seller to list their cars for FREE. is that means they will only focus on cars.com to make money?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/autotrader-i-did-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-4644</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have experience with both autotrader and cars.com. the cost of autotrader in todays market is a problem. Cars.com with there yahoo partnership and at 1/3 the cost of autotrader makes it very attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have experience with both autotrader and cars.com. the cost of autotrader in todays market is a problem. Cars.com with there yahoo partnership and at 1/3 the cost of autotrader makes it very attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: Auto Industry Startups</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/autotrader-i-did-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator>Auto Industry Startups</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Autotrader Forcing Small Dealers Out ofBusiness&lt;/strong&gt;

The 2007 NIADA report is out and provides some excellent nuggets of information about the health of the used car market and its participants. A few rough highlights before I go into something I find more interesting:

Days supply of inventory for deale...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Autotrader Forcing Small Dealers Out ofBusiness</strong></p>
<p>The 2007 NIADA report is out and provides some excellent nuggets of information about the health of the used car market and its participants. A few rough highlights before I go into something I find more interesting:</p>
<p>Days supply of inventory for deale&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/autotrader-i-did-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-773</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Jeff: &quot;Does this mean even if I make a change to a car..like price, description, photos..the information is locked BUT if the vehicle is deleted from the feed (DMS or software feed) it will delete from AutoTrader? I have not witnessed this but will be sure to keep a closer eye to see if this indeed works.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, this is correct, however I believe your feed provider must request this setup specifically
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Jeff: &#8220;Does this mean even if I make a change to a car..like price, description, photos..the information is locked BUT if the vehicle is deleted from the feed (DMS or software feed) it will delete from AutoTrader? I have not witnessed this but will be sure to keep a closer eye to see if this indeed works.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Yes, this is correct, however I believe your feed provider must request this setup specifically</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to my Cars.com rep:

&quot;Cars.com dropped MSN because the traffic was not there.  We are picking up something way better!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to my Cars.com rep:</p>
<p>&#8220;Cars.com dropped MSN because the traffic was not there.  We are picking up something way better!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald hand</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/autotrader-i-did-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-771</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic, Jeff.  I too have been perturbed by the substabtual annual price hike from Autotrader for minimal increases in ability.  I actually pulled the plug on them last year at my dealership for a couple of reasons, and the management came out of the woodwork! You&#039;d think I was trying to leave a store without buying a car.

After a couple of months, I got back on board at a diminished level, and gradually increased to Premium Partner, simply because from an ROI standpoint, it makes business sense.  Even if it costs you $300-400/sold car, you are still much cheaper than a &quot;showroom&quot; sold, and generally, you can run better gross (They picked YOUR car after all).

Bottom line, do not be afraid to mix it up with Autotrader.  I think if enough stores fire them or decrease their membership, upper management might get the hint.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with the CARS.com web leads- they sell fine too.  Maybe move some of that cash over to Cars for a quarter and see what the results are.  Autotrader will continue to push the price range envelope as long as we permit them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic, Jeff.  I too have been perturbed by the substabtual annual price hike from Autotrader for minimal increases in ability.  I actually pulled the plug on them last year at my dealership for a couple of reasons, and the management came out of the woodwork! You&#8217;d think I was trying to leave a store without buying a car.</p>
<p>After a couple of months, I got back on board at a diminished level, and gradually increased to Premium Partner, simply because from an ROI standpoint, it makes business sense.  Even if it costs you $300-400/sold car, you are still much cheaper than a &#8220;showroom&#8221; sold, and generally, you can run better gross (They picked YOUR car after all).</p>
<p>Bottom line, do not be afraid to mix it up with Autotrader.  I think if enough stores fire them or decrease their membership, upper management might get the hint.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with the CARS.com web leads- they sell fine too.  Maybe move some of that cash over to Cars for a quarter and see what the results are.  Autotrader will continue to push the price range envelope as long as we permit them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kershner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Kershner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, I don&#039;t have a problem if you want to use HTML for linking to information like this.

I bet that spike was when Yahoo was turned on and we should maybe see another spike with MSN. I&#039;m sure AutoTrader has had to spend some money just to &lt;i&gt;maintain&lt;/i&gt; their market share.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I don&#8217;t have a problem if you want to use HTML for linking to information like this.</p>
<p>I bet that spike was when Yahoo was turned on and we should maybe see another spike with MSN. I&#8217;m sure AutoTrader has had to spend some money just to <i>maintain</i> their market share.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pistell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Pistell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Autotrader Traffic Graph
(Alexa; 5 year)

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?
site0=autotrader.com&amp;site1=&amp;site2=&amp;site3=&amp;site4=
&amp;y=r&amp;z=1&amp;h=300&amp;w=610&amp;range=5y&amp;size=
Medium&amp;url=autotrader.com

YUK, AutoTrader.com at 5 year low. That spike in late 04 must have been the Yahoo connection being switched on. Looks like that relationship is USELESS now.

NOTE: when I previewed the URL (above) the complete URL would not show so I have to cut it up.  You&#039;ll have t paste all lines individually.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Autotrader Traffic Graph<br />
(Alexa; 5 year)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?" rel="nofollow">http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?</a><br />
site0=autotrader.com&#038;site1=&#038;site2=&#038;site3=&#038;site4=<br />
&#038;y=r&#038;z=1&#038;h=300&#038;w=610&#038;range=5y&#038;size=<br />
Medium&#038;url=autotrader.com</p>
<p>YUK, AutoTrader.com at 5 year low. That spike in late 04 must have been the Yahoo connection being switched on. Looks like that relationship is USELESS now.</p>
<p>NOTE: when I previewed the URL (above) the complete URL would not show so I have to cut it up.  You&#8217;ll have t paste all lines individually.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kershner</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/autotrader-i-did-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kershner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, thanks for your feedback. Maybe you can help clarify.

You said - &quot;since around March of this year you can now use ad manager and the vehicle will be deleted once it is deleted from the source where it originally came&quot;

Does this mean even if I make a change to a car..like price, description, photos..the information is locked BUT if the vehicle is deleted from the feed (DMS or software feed) it will delete from AutoTrader? I have not witnessed this but will be sure to keep a closer eye to see if this indeed works.

I&#039;m curious to see if the addition of MSN advertising will make a difference.

&quot;Wait till next year, the best is yet to come!&quot; Oh no..will this mean another 20-30% price increase?

-Jeff
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, thanks for your feedback. Maybe you can help clarify.</p>
<p>You said &#8211; &#8220;since around March of this year you can now use ad manager and the vehicle will be deleted once it is deleted from the source where it originally came&#8221;</p>
<p>Does this mean even if I make a change to a car..like price, description, photos..the information is locked BUT if the vehicle is deleted from the feed (DMS or software feed) it will delete from AutoTrader? I have not witnessed this but will be sure to keep a closer eye to see if this indeed works.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious to see if the addition of MSN advertising will make a difference.</p>
<p>&#8220;Wait till next year, the best is yet to come!&#8221; Oh no..will this mean another 20-30% price increase?</p>
<p>-Jeff</p>
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