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		<title>By: Kurt Hoppe</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/blueprint-series-automotive-crm-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-6765</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt Hoppe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of EDI (Electronic Data Interchange) is actually out there. It&#039;s used by numerous large industries (healthcare, insurance, etc.) to be able to track and integrate customer information across multiple platforms. In the industries where data management is critical (insurance being a prime example), EDI is the needed &quot;standard&quot;, plus a sequence of maps that permit data throughput to other related areas and ways to enforce access security.

However, what the industries did to make EDI happen was WORK TOGETHER. The key to really taking CRM, ILM, DMS and so on in the alphabet soup is to get the OEM&#039;s, dealers and vendors together and agree on a standard. Once that happens, you can take OEM Financial Services customers and seamlessly pass them to any CRM vendor when they come due, trigger a specific customer class, do the right follow up without duplicating it to an existing process in the dealer&#039;s own CRM work plan. You can more accurately pull histories, sales activity across all departments... the potential is huge and the tech is already there. Most vendors would just have to plug into the process by building their own translator to the EDI standard.

But I&#039;m sure folks already have this idea somewhere. Microsoft .net is a concept that may be able to break the standards barrier or a collaboration between vendors, OEM&#039;s and dealers may make it happen. What I&#039;ve seen though is that there is a strong sense of territorialism in some respects (ADP&#039;s data agreements come to mind), which would complicate making an EDI standard work, because one company wants to be tight-fisted and force clients and potential product partners alike to spend bigger bucks than they can afford to participate.

The insurance and healthcare EDI initiatives worked because everyone saw a common good for it, especially since a customer could travel from one provider to another and still need access to all their information.

Just my two cents. If the industry was willing to work together more, EDI and a standard could get done all too quickly, and allow a fairer playing field for all the vendors to compete in.

Thanks for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of EDI (Electronic Data Interchange) is actually out there. It&#8217;s used by numerous large industries (healthcare, insurance, etc.) to be able to track and integrate customer information across multiple platforms. In the industries where data management is critical (insurance being a prime example), EDI is the needed &#8220;standard&#8221;, plus a sequence of maps that permit data throughput to other related areas and ways to enforce access security.</p>
<p>However, what the industries did to make EDI happen was WORK TOGETHER. The key to really taking CRM, ILM, DMS and so on in the alphabet soup is to get the OEM&#8217;s, dealers and vendors together and agree on a standard. Once that happens, you can take OEM Financial Services customers and seamlessly pass them to any CRM vendor when they come due, trigger a specific customer class, do the right follow up without duplicating it to an existing process in the dealer&#8217;s own CRM work plan. You can more accurately pull histories, sales activity across all departments&#8230; the potential is huge and the tech is already there. Most vendors would just have to plug into the process by building their own translator to the EDI standard.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m sure folks already have this idea somewhere. Microsoft .net is a concept that may be able to break the standards barrier or a collaboration between vendors, OEM&#8217;s and dealers may make it happen. What I&#8217;ve seen though is that there is a strong sense of territorialism in some respects (ADP&#8217;s data agreements come to mind), which would complicate making an EDI standard work, because one company wants to be tight-fisted and force clients and potential product partners alike to spend bigger bucks than they can afford to participate.</p>
<p>The insurance and healthcare EDI initiatives worked because everyone saw a common good for it, especially since a customer could travel from one provider to another and still need access to all their information.</p>
<p>Just my two cents. If the industry was willing to work together more, EDI and a standard could get done all too quickly, and allow a fairer playing field for all the vendors to compete in.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: John McGaughn</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/blueprint-series-automotive-crm-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-6588</link>
		<dc:creator>John McGaughn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve recently switched CRM Systems.  I can&#039;t believe this system doesn&#039;t integrate with the DMS.  In other words -- if a salesperson doesn&#039;t enter/edit the client record correctly, there&#039;s no &quot;safety net.&quot;  CRM/SFA Rule #1 should deal with Integration: the system needs to work with existing core processes to make like easier -- help us be smarter -- don&#039;t put the pressure on the Sales Staff to be the ultimate record-keepers for the dealership.  

ALSO -- Shawn Morse/Alex -- I work for a group with multiple franchises -- and just switched from a system that was customer-centric -- everyone in the same bucket (sure miss it!).  The technology and the system has been around for a couple years -- I will respect Jeff&#039;s and Alex&#039;s wishes to not make this a commercial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve recently switched CRM Systems.  I can&#8217;t believe this system doesn&#8217;t integrate with the DMS.  In other words &#8212; if a salesperson doesn&#8217;t enter/edit the client record correctly, there&#8217;s no &#8220;safety net.&#8221;  CRM/SFA Rule #1 should deal with Integration: the system needs to work with existing core processes to make like easier &#8212; help us be smarter &#8212; don&#8217;t put the pressure on the Sales Staff to be the ultimate record-keepers for the dealership.  </p>
<p>ALSO &#8212; Shawn Morse/Alex &#8212; I work for a group with multiple franchises &#8212; and just switched from a system that was customer-centric &#8212; everyone in the same bucket (sure miss it!).  The technology and the system has been around for a couple years &#8212; I will respect Jeff&#8217;s and Alex&#8217;s wishes to not make this a commercial.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Morse</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/blueprint-series-automotive-crm-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-6471</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Morse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex
  Your original question about having multiple competing franchises under your dealer group and wishing for a single client file is almost answered. VinSolutions is working towards this as we speak and we will be rolling it out in the near future. One record per customer accross the entire group will certainly make life easier for dealer groups. It has to be a bad thing when you are getting worked on ACV against another guy in your group! I will let you know when it is complete if you care to take a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex<br />
  Your original question about having multiple competing franchises under your dealer group and wishing for a single client file is almost answered. VinSolutions is working towards this as we speak and we will be rolling it out in the near future. One record per customer accross the entire group will certainly make life easier for dealer groups. It has to be a bad thing when you are getting worked on ACV against another guy in your group! I will let you know when it is complete if you care to take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy - I got a bounceback on the email I just sent you, so I left a message with Mario at your Ford Store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy &#8211; I got a bounceback on the email I just sent you, so I left a message with Mario at your Ford Store.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy - That is a conversation over the phone.  Way too much to post.  All good stuff though!  I am sending you an email with my contact info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy &#8211; That is a conversation over the phone.  Way too much to post.  All good stuff though!  I am sending you an email with my contact info.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Pursley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Pursley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the Imagic ILM and will Probably go with the CRM. Can you give me some pros and cons with the CRM from sales to service. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the Imagic ILM and will Probably go with the CRM. Can you give me some pros and cons with the CRM from sales to service. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know my standards are a little high, but I just want one that works.. If I had a penny for all the mins I have spent on the phone with tech over the last 3 years, I wouldn&#039;t need this job.I used to gripe about eleads, huh, I would gladly have them! They are gods compared to ADP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know my standards are a little high, but I just want one that works.. If I had a penny for all the mins I have spent on the phone with tech over the last 3 years, I wouldn&#8217;t need this job.I used to gripe about eleads, huh, I would gladly have them! They are gods compared to ADP.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Aronson</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/blueprint-series-automotive-crm-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-1922</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if anyone wants to talk, or anyone has any real autobase experience and is willing to share, I would appreciate it at jaronson@ramseychryslerjeep.com I will be more than willing to offer my LSI experience to anyone who wants it as well.
Joel
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if anyone wants to talk, or anyone has any real autobase experience and is willing to share, I would appreciate it at <a href="mailto:jaronson@ramseychryslerjeep.com">jaronson@ramseychryslerjeep.com</a> I will be more than willing to offer my LSI experience to anyone who wants it as well.<br />
Joel</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Aronson</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/blueprint-series-automotive-crm-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-1921</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to use the CRM of one of the major DMS players at a Ford store, now I use and independent vendor&#039;s product. I have test driven the &quot;other&quot; major DMS vendor&#039;s CRM and found it better than either. However, the most important comment, that I most agree needs to be addressed is the ability to create your own query, even if ONLY to be able to decide who to send your bulk email to!
I used to have the ability, archaic though it was to write SQL queries, but you literally had to be a programmer to do it!
Now we&#039;re using (In a Chrysler Jeep store) a third party solution in all ten stores, not able to switch customers with salespeople or for manager&#039;s to have access to ALL. VERY limited ability to query the database to send email, newsletter, coupons, whatever. Granted it&#039;s user friendly (I HATE that term) enough for the green pea, and the old school guy alike, but still they don&#039;t log every up, just like they didn&#039;t log every up when they had to write it. Okay, when they come to the desk, they MUST have a printed worksheet from the system so those are always logged, but how about the guy on the lot looking at a used car? He is likely a buyer at some point, but you can&#039;t reach him because you don&#039;t know who he is, and if you do, you have to enter him as a prospect, and then he comes up on the salesman&#039;s follow up sheet every day, even if he&#039;s six months out. There needs to a category for &quot;other&quot; I recently put up a myspace page, what of the people who respond to the blog? How do I enter them to be able to email them coupons newsletters and bulk emails?
And, why the limit on the fields, not only the length of them but the number? What if it&#039;s a split deal, but the person was in one of our other stores looking at another car with a third or fourth salesman. I could go on and on and on, but I&#039;ll stay with DMS integration, even if your CRM IS from a third party vendor, and the ability to build a query any way you want in a user interface that does NOT require a programmer. After all, after a long day working the desk, closing deals, watching over the BDC, do I really want to start what really amounts to writing code? And the program we use now, (okay it&#039;s Autobase) has the interface, but has so few options to build on it&#039;s a royal pain anyway.
Okay, I&#039;ll leave the rest of the rant to &quot;Bad Ashley&quot; (Go get them Ashley, you got it RIGHT!!!) and sign off for now. GREAT Thread by the way!
Joel
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to use the CRM of one of the major DMS players at a Ford store, now I use and independent vendor&#8217;s product. I have test driven the &#8220;other&#8221; major DMS vendor&#8217;s CRM and found it better than either. However, the most important comment, that I most agree needs to be addressed is the ability to create your own query, even if ONLY to be able to decide who to send your bulk email to!<br />
I used to have the ability, archaic though it was to write SQL queries, but you literally had to be a programmer to do it!<br />
Now we&#8217;re using (In a Chrysler Jeep store) a third party solution in all ten stores, not able to switch customers with salespeople or for manager&#8217;s to have access to ALL. VERY limited ability to query the database to send email, newsletter, coupons, whatever. Granted it&#8217;s user friendly (I HATE that term) enough for the green pea, and the old school guy alike, but still they don&#8217;t log every up, just like they didn&#8217;t log every up when they had to write it. Okay, when they come to the desk, they MUST have a printed worksheet from the system so those are always logged, but how about the guy on the lot looking at a used car? He is likely a buyer at some point, but you can&#8217;t reach him because you don&#8217;t know who he is, and if you do, you have to enter him as a prospect, and then he comes up on the salesman&#8217;s follow up sheet every day, even if he&#8217;s six months out. There needs to a category for &#8220;other&#8221; I recently put up a myspace page, what of the people who respond to the blog? How do I enter them to be able to email them coupons newsletters and bulk emails?<br />
And, why the limit on the fields, not only the length of them but the number? What if it&#8217;s a split deal, but the person was in one of our other stores looking at another car with a third or fourth salesman. I could go on and on and on, but I&#8217;ll stay with DMS integration, even if your CRM IS from a third party vendor, and the ability to build a query any way you want in a user interface that does NOT require a programmer. After all, after a long day working the desk, closing deals, watching over the BDC, do I really want to start what really amounts to writing code? And the program we use now, (okay it&#8217;s Autobase) has the interface, but has so few options to build on it&#8217;s a royal pain anyway.<br />
Okay, I&#8217;ll leave the rest of the rant to &#8220;Bad Ashley&#8221; (Go get them Ashley, you got it RIGHT!!!) and sign off for now. GREAT Thread by the way!<br />
Joel</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pistell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Pistell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,
Looking forward to your iMagicLab findings.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,<br />
Looking forward to your iMagicLab findings.</p>
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