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		<title>By: Concerned with Rey Rey CRM - DealerRefresh Automotive Technology Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned with Rey Rey CRM - DealerRefresh Automotive Technology Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all get a bigger slice.     Jerry and you just reminded me of another piece of reading material: Why car dealerships are flawed &#124; DealerRefresh   __________________ Contact Us if you need technical support for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Where Have All the Leaders Gone? - DealerRefresh Automotive Technology Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Where Have All the Leaders Gone? - DealerRefresh Automotive Technology Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he manages.  You&#039;re absolutely right Hoss. If you want a little of the &quot;why&quot; check out Why car dealerships are flawed   __________________ Contact Us if you need technical support for DealerRefresh or want to ask [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Schrader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Schrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda - Great to see you here! 

I have been exposed to the car business since I was a kid, benefiting the lovely traits from my parents.  I sold the old beaters for my dad at the shop to the public. It eventually evolved from there to getting into the Repossession business and so forth evolving to Internet Sales etc.  I didn&#039;t get suckered into the dealerships to make money, shoot you can make a decent living, very nice, off selling cars.  I sold a ton.  What driven me to sell more and stay with the dealerships is the passion of sales.  Getting to the dealership to help with balloons, getting the lot looking good and making coffee for the boys.  This is what made me successful at the dealership is the joy of working a deal and making a family, individual, happy with their purchase. 
I did have to fight my battles and to stand my ground. The most popular term of hate, being snaked! Many have tried it however I stood my ground.  Drove me a little bonkers and they were shocked how I kept track.... Hello I controlled the CRM / Kiosk etc &amp; Internet. I knew everyone that walked through that door. 
People make their own choices of complaining about how sales suck, not making money, on and on and on.....  Get your A** out of huddle,drop your smoke, get back to basics and get your feet on the street!  You make your decision of making money! 

You can complain all day about how sales suck, Surely I am the last person that wants to hear it because you can make money and more sales, just get out there and do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda &#8211; Great to see you here! </p>
<p>I have been exposed to the car business since I was a kid, benefiting the lovely traits from my parents.  I sold the old beaters for my dad at the shop to the public. It eventually evolved from there to getting into the Repossession business and so forth evolving to Internet Sales etc.  I didn&#8217;t get suckered into the dealerships to make money, shoot you can make a decent living, very nice, off selling cars.  I sold a ton.  What driven me to sell more and stay with the dealerships is the passion of sales.  Getting to the dealership to help with balloons, getting the lot looking good and making coffee for the boys.  This is what made me successful at the dealership is the joy of working a deal and making a family, individual, happy with their purchase.<br />
I did have to fight my battles and to stand my ground. The most popular term of hate, being snaked! Many have tried it however I stood my ground.  Drove me a little bonkers and they were shocked how I kept track&#8230;. Hello I controlled the CRM / Kiosk etc &amp; Internet. I knew everyone that walked through that door.<br />
People make their own choices of complaining about how sales suck, not making money, on and on and on&#8230;..  Get your A** out of huddle,drop your smoke, get back to basics and get your feet on the street!  You make your decision of making money! </p>
<p>You can complain all day about how sales suck, Surely I am the last person that wants to hear it because you can make money and more sales, just get out there and do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Marsal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Marsal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would definately say that the majority of the people in this business got started just as a way to pay the bills until what they really wanted to do came along, and I am no different. I left Indiana at 18 yr old to attend the Walt Disney World college program. I had a blast, absolutely fell in love with Florida, and decided that after the semester was over that I wanted to stay in FL. Well, I had two weeks to find an appartment (and a job) or it was back to the Hoosier state for me. Where was I able to find a job on such short notice with absolutely no experience as an almost 19yr old girl? A car dealership! They hired me (must have been desperate, because looking back I know I was totally clueless) and I started the next week. I knew that being young and a female, that no one was going to take me seriously, so I had to work twice as hard and know twice as much as the other 30 sales guys (1 other female). Within three months I was selling 25 cars a month, and almost got fired one Saturday because; I had three deals working in three different offices and let one of the families go to lunch and come back later to sign-up. This is the only business in the world where you can almost get fired the same day you sell 4 cars. Needless to say, the biz kind of grew on me, and ten years later, I am the Internet Manager for four car dealerships in Southern Indiana. I am a lifer for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would definately say that the majority of the people in this business got started just as a way to pay the bills until what they really wanted to do came along, and I am no different. I left Indiana at 18 yr old to attend the Walt Disney World college program. I had a blast, absolutely fell in love with Florida, and decided that after the semester was over that I wanted to stay in FL. Well, I had two weeks to find an appartment (and a job) or it was back to the Hoosier state for me. Where was I able to find a job on such short notice with absolutely no experience as an almost 19yr old girl? A car dealership! They hired me (must have been desperate, because looking back I know I was totally clueless) and I started the next week. I knew that being young and a female, that no one was going to take me seriously, so I had to work twice as hard and know twice as much as the other 30 sales guys (1 other female). Within three months I was selling 25 cars a month, and almost got fired one Saturday because; I had three deals working in three different offices and let one of the families go to lunch and come back later to sign-up. This is the only business in the world where you can almost get fired the same day you sell 4 cars. Needless to say, the biz kind of grew on me, and ten years later, I am the Internet Manager for four car dealerships in Southern Indiana. I am a lifer for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Volker -a.k.a. - Jaeckel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Volker -a.k.a. - Jaeckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex...just came back from the Airport and saw you response...YOU ARE FUNNY...my hat off to you and your organization. I am sure we&#039;ll see each other soon.
Volker Jaeckel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex&#8230;just came back from the Airport and saw you response&#8230;YOU ARE FUNNY&#8230;my hat off to you and your organization. I am sure we&#8217;ll see each other soon.<br />
Volker Jaeckel</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fontano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Fontano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found myself sitting in the service lounge at Ft Myers Toyota getting my Camry serviced on my only day off. Twenty two years in the restaurant business and I had finally arrived, Food and Beverage Director of a prestigious Country Club. Then how come I was still bussing tables, washing dishes, bartending and hosting? 

I was sitting there reading the paper looking at the want ads, (remember them?) when it hit me. Everyone here seems happy, they all look like they have a purpose. Honestly I had no idea what kind of money car salespeople made.

I went to the receptionist, remember it was my day off, so I&#039;m in shorts, probably a Van Halen t-shirt, sandals, you get the picture.
The receptionist looked at me like I had three heads when I asked for an application. She then went on to inform me that they did not hire sales people with out experience. So with that I went off filled out the app and brought it back the next day. 

Well I got the interview with John Marazzi and ultimately the job, but it was one of the most incredible interviews ever. In fact it totally changed my perspective on interviewing people, and I have interviewed hundreds! 

John asked me how many hours a week I worked, hah, 80 or so. He asked how much i made and I proudly exclaimed 68k! He said wow, that&#039;s a lot of hours for such a little amount of money.

I had no idea what to say, I was actually speechless. John then told that in order to make the transition to selling ca5rs from a 22 year comfort zone there would have to be a considerable amount of pain in what I was doing. He told me to go home and talk to my wife, think hard about it  then let him know if I still wanted to make the change.

I did just that. I called him the next day, told him I was ready. I started training the following week. I poured myself into it. I practiced walk-arounds in my driveway at night with friends, family, neighbors. Penciled deals at my dinner table. The point was that there was no try. I had a family to feed. I sold 9 minis in April 2002. I finished that year with a higher year to date than I had ever made before.  Seven months later I was promoted to the desk. (The Internet Department is another story.)
Sure this business is stressful at times, but I don’t recall ever smiling, laughing and pumping my fist in the air while bussing tables. Sales can be exhilarating! 
If we suck, it’s because we have hired ourselves into that position. I have since interviewed mortgage brokers, realtors, etc. for sales positions and I have asked them the same question that John asked me.  
It’s been kind of fun reliving that story and I even felt a bit self indulgent but what the hell. What we as managers need to do is maintain the integrity of Salesmanship. If we choose to let people who want to “Play cars” walk in and out of our showroom on a whim then we will have no choice but to settle for “Suck”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found myself sitting in the service lounge at Ft Myers Toyota getting my Camry serviced on my only day off. Twenty two years in the restaurant business and I had finally arrived, Food and Beverage Director of a prestigious Country Club. Then how come I was still bussing tables, washing dishes, bartending and hosting? </p>
<p>I was sitting there reading the paper looking at the want ads, (remember them?) when it hit me. Everyone here seems happy, they all look like they have a purpose. Honestly I had no idea what kind of money car salespeople made.</p>
<p>I went to the receptionist, remember it was my day off, so I&#8217;m in shorts, probably a Van Halen t-shirt, sandals, you get the picture.<br />
The receptionist looked at me like I had three heads when I asked for an application. She then went on to inform me that they did not hire sales people with out experience. So with that I went off filled out the app and brought it back the next day. </p>
<p>Well I got the interview with John Marazzi and ultimately the job, but it was one of the most incredible interviews ever. In fact it totally changed my perspective on interviewing people, and I have interviewed hundreds! </p>
<p>John asked me how many hours a week I worked, hah, 80 or so. He asked how much i made and I proudly exclaimed 68k! He said wow, that&#8217;s a lot of hours for such a little amount of money.</p>
<p>I had no idea what to say, I was actually speechless. John then told that in order to make the transition to selling ca5rs from a 22 year comfort zone there would have to be a considerable amount of pain in what I was doing. He told me to go home and talk to my wife, think hard about it  then let him know if I still wanted to make the change.</p>
<p>I did just that. I called him the next day, told him I was ready. I started training the following week. I poured myself into it. I practiced walk-arounds in my driveway at night with friends, family, neighbors. Penciled deals at my dinner table. The point was that there was no try. I had a family to feed. I sold 9 minis in April 2002. I finished that year with a higher year to date than I had ever made before.  Seven months later I was promoted to the desk. (The Internet Department is another story.)<br />
Sure this business is stressful at times, but I don’t recall ever smiling, laughing and pumping my fist in the air while bussing tables. Sales can be exhilarating!<br />
If we suck, it’s because we have hired ourselves into that position. I have since interviewed mortgage brokers, realtors, etc. for sales positions and I have asked them the same question that John asked me.<br />
It’s been kind of fun reliving that story and I even felt a bit self indulgent but what the hell. What we as managers need to do is maintain the integrity of Salesmanship. If we choose to let people who want to “Play cars” walk in and out of our showroom on a whim then we will have no choice but to settle for “Suck”</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in the Sign Business in Charlotte when I decided to look for a better life. My eye caught an ad for help wanted at the Dodge store on busy Independence Blvd. When interviewed I was sat down with the #1 sales person there, his name was General Washington (I&#039;m so serious). He told me give the car business 90 days, and if I&#039;m not making more money than I ever have, try something else. Well, now 14 years later (not all of that in the car business, but most), I find myself making more money than I ever have. So the General was on the money - and well that&#039;s the only reason I work in this business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in the Sign Business in Charlotte when I decided to look for a better life. My eye caught an ad for help wanted at the Dodge store on busy Independence Blvd. When interviewed I was sat down with the #1 sales person there, his name was General Washington (I&#8217;m so serious). He told me give the car business 90 days, and if I&#8217;m not making more money than I ever have, try something else. Well, now 14 years later (not all of that in the car business, but most), I find myself making more money than I ever have. So the General was on the money &#8211; and well that&#8217;s the only reason I work in this business.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Galbraith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Galbraith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just couldn&#039;t get it down with text alone, so here is the three minute video. http://tinyurl.com/y86ga8v</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just couldn&#8217;t get it down with text alone, so here is the three minute video. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/y86ga8v" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y86ga8v</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Gallant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Gallant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT GREAT post. I was sucked in by the money early on... a good buddy&#039;s mom was a service advisor and he always told the tales of making TEN BUCKS AN HOUR MAN, just to wash cars... Boom - i was in! In a REAL small town in northwest Ontario and at 15 that was damn appealing... its now 10 years later and I&#039;m still in it for the excitement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT GREAT post. I was sucked in by the money early on&#8230; a good buddy&#8217;s mom was a service advisor and he always told the tales of making TEN BUCKS AN HOUR MAN, just to wash cars&#8230; Boom &#8211; i was in! In a REAL small town in northwest Ontario and at 15 that was damn appealing&#8230; its now 10 years later and I&#8217;m still in it for the excitement.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Clouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Clouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
Let me clarify my thoughts. This industry does not suck. It is just taking longer for the folks who refuse to bring it to the next level to get out. They got in, made money while it was great in spite of their lack of education, knowledge or self esteem. Those same folks moved up through the ranks and became responsible for the negative perception of the, shall we say, Dealership Salesfloor Mentality. When the business started shifting and the customers were armed with more and more knowledge, the only thing they knew to do was what they were trained, nothing different. Now many of them had the self worth and personal pride to take it upon themselves to adapt, learn, share, and become successful. They found what they never had been given. I agree about it being a pain to train for some time but you seem very intelligent and have zeal. Which is worse, spending more time to be able to do this correctly or, listening to those who say that is the way it is? Those are the 7-8 car guys or the complainers in the service drive. Break the rules, sell a car, learn, assemble what you need, stand in front of them until they give you the answers you need and you can tell them you would rather work smart than blind. Nothing is worse in the big picture than being poorly informed and trying to wing it. When you don&#039;t get away with it just one time, you create a bad vision from the customer that has your name tied to it. What does that mean for you over 3 years when they tell everyone they know and they know and on and on. Just say I don&#039;t know and find the answer or get someone who does. You will be fine if you swallow the training pill. If they won&#039;t arm you, arm yourself, be professional, be proactive every time. It seperates the rock stars from the groupies. Then you will understand why this really is the best business to ever be associated with. Help people and really care or get a job at Burger King. That is what I meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
Let me clarify my thoughts. This industry does not suck. It is just taking longer for the folks who refuse to bring it to the next level to get out. They got in, made money while it was great in spite of their lack of education, knowledge or self esteem. Those same folks moved up through the ranks and became responsible for the negative perception of the, shall we say, Dealership Salesfloor Mentality. When the business started shifting and the customers were armed with more and more knowledge, the only thing they knew to do was what they were trained, nothing different. Now many of them had the self worth and personal pride to take it upon themselves to adapt, learn, share, and become successful. They found what they never had been given. I agree about it being a pain to train for some time but you seem very intelligent and have zeal. Which is worse, spending more time to be able to do this correctly or, listening to those who say that is the way it is? Those are the 7-8 car guys or the complainers in the service drive. Break the rules, sell a car, learn, assemble what you need, stand in front of them until they give you the answers you need and you can tell them you would rather work smart than blind. Nothing is worse in the big picture than being poorly informed and trying to wing it. When you don&#8217;t get away with it just one time, you create a bad vision from the customer that has your name tied to it. What does that mean for you over 3 years when they tell everyone they know and they know and on and on. Just say I don&#8217;t know and find the answer or get someone who does. You will be fine if you swallow the training pill. If they won&#8217;t arm you, arm yourself, be professional, be proactive every time. It seperates the rock stars from the groupies. Then you will understand why this really is the best business to ever be associated with. Help people and really care or get a job at Burger King. That is what I meant.</p>
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