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		<title>By: pete condit</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7343</link>
		<dc:creator>pete condit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C4C will prove to be yet another government boondoggle.

Dealers will have one good month. The 4th quarter, IMO, will be one of the worst in the history of the industry since anyone that was even considering buying in the next year or so, just did.

This will wreak havoc with dealers.

Hope you folks saved all your commision checks from july, cause it&#039;s gonna be a pretty bad christmas for you.

As for the alleged fuel savings, once you figure in the costs to produce extra new cars, scrap perfectly good ones and the increase in miles driven by the former clunker owners, I think you will find the actual decrease to be pretty meager.

This money would have been much better spent improving public transportation and improving roadways to promote bicycle use. 

I ride my bike over 12 miles to work somedays. Parts of this trip are on roads ill suited to bicycles with poor/non existent shoulders. Improving such roads to make them bicycle friendly would result in increased bicycle commuting which would also help the country&#039;s obesity problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C4C will prove to be yet another government boondoggle.</p>
<p>Dealers will have one good month. The 4th quarter, IMO, will be one of the worst in the history of the industry since anyone that was even considering buying in the next year or so, just did.</p>
<p>This will wreak havoc with dealers.</p>
<p>Hope you folks saved all your commision checks from july, cause it&#8217;s gonna be a pretty bad christmas for you.</p>
<p>As for the alleged fuel savings, once you figure in the costs to produce extra new cars, scrap perfectly good ones and the increase in miles driven by the former clunker owners, I think you will find the actual decrease to be pretty meager.</p>
<p>This money would have been much better spent improving public transportation and improving roadways to promote bicycle use. </p>
<p>I ride my bike over 12 miles to work somedays. Parts of this trip are on roads ill suited to bicycles with poor/non existent shoulders. Improving such roads to make them bicycle friendly would result in increased bicycle commuting which would also help the country&#8217;s obesity problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Hammond</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7193</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can&#039;t get over that these cars are supposed to go to the junk yard.  I spoke with a buddy the other day pulling radios and other parts off cars in the C4C lot.  If you&#039;ve ever been to a junk yard to get parts you know how bad for the environment these places are.  Oil and anti-freeze seeping into the ground is no good.  

Overall, C4C is nothing more than an stimulus package for the automotive industry, another way to move old inventory.  At least that&#039;s all I see.   My biggest fear is this will bring a lot of future potential buyers into the buying cycle and result in a lull in the coming months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t get over that these cars are supposed to go to the junk yard.  I spoke with a buddy the other day pulling radios and other parts off cars in the C4C lot.  If you&#8217;ve ever been to a junk yard to get parts you know how bad for the environment these places are.  Oil and anti-freeze seeping into the ground is no good.  </p>
<p>Overall, C4C is nothing more than an stimulus package for the automotive industry, another way to move old inventory.  At least that&#8217;s all I see.   My biggest fear is this will bring a lot of future potential buyers into the buying cycle and result in a lull in the coming months.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kershner</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7179</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kershner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So everyone knows, the survey is still open. 

We will gather data as long as it is coming in. We would love to get your numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So everyone knows, the survey is still open. </p>
<p>We will gather data as long as it is coming in. We would love to get your numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pistell</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7178</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Pistell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Special thanks to all our participating dealers!  

Reporters. Here are the survey participants that are OK to contact:

Joe Najar
joseph.najar@silverstarauto.com
Honda of Thousand Oaks
www.hondaofto.com

Alex Snyder
axsnyder@checkeredflag.com
Checkered Flag
checkeredflag.com

Jim Graves
jim.graves@economyhonda.com
ECONOMY HONDA SUPERSTORE
economyhonda.com

Steven Moore
stevemoore@sandyspringsford.com
Sandy Springs Ford
sandyspringsford.com

Gerald Hand
geraldhand@hotmail.com
O&#039;Neal Auto Group</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Special thanks to all our participating dealers!  </p>
<p>Reporters. Here are the survey participants that are OK to contact:</p>
<p>Joe Najar<br />
<a href="mailto:joseph.najar@silverstarauto.com">joseph.najar@silverstarauto.com</a><br />
Honda of Thousand Oaks<br />
<a href="http://www.hondaofto.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hondaofto.com</a></p>
<p>Alex Snyder<br />
<a href="mailto:axsnyder@checkeredflag.com">axsnyder@checkeredflag.com</a><br />
Checkered Flag<br />
checkeredflag.com</p>
<p>Jim Graves<br />
<a href="mailto:jim.graves@economyhonda.com">jim.graves@economyhonda.com</a><br />
ECONOMY HONDA SUPERSTORE<br />
economyhonda.com</p>
<p>Steven Moore<br />
<a href="mailto:stevemoore@sandyspringsford.com">stevemoore@sandyspringsford.com</a><br />
Sandy Springs Ford<br />
sandyspringsford.com</p>
<p>Gerald Hand<br />
<a href="mailto:geraldhand@hotmail.com">geraldhand@hotmail.com</a><br />
O&#8217;Neal Auto Group</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pistell</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7176</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Pistell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash 4 Clunkers saves 232 million gallons of gas each year. 


RESULTS:
2,313 Crushed Clunkers counted
MPG Clunkers:  16.3
MPG New Units: 24.6
MPG Difference: +8.4 MPG

If driven 15,000 miles per year
And 
if 750,000 Clunkers are Crushed

Each unit burns LESS gas, 310 gallons less.

That&#039;s 5.5 million barrels of crude that won&#039;t have to be imported. 

That&#039;s 3 million tons LESS Co2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash 4 Clunkers saves 232 million gallons of gas each year. </p>
<p>RESULTS:<br />
2,313 Crushed Clunkers counted<br />
MPG Clunkers:  16.3<br />
MPG New Units: 24.6<br />
MPG Difference: +8.4 MPG</p>
<p>If driven 15,000 miles per year<br />
And<br />
if 750,000 Clunkers are Crushed</p>
<p>Each unit burns LESS gas, 310 gallons less.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s 5.5 million barrels of crude that won&#8217;t have to be imported. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s 3 million tons LESS Co2.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7166</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe-  Great post. This is an amazing initiative in CO2 savings AND gas savings. Might it be pronounced enough of an impact to influence the price of oil? Perhaps time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe-  Great post. This is an amazing initiative in CO2 savings AND gas savings. Might it be pronounced enough of an impact to influence the price of oil? Perhaps time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pistell</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7154</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Pistell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REMINDER! We need your C4C numbers, plz go to: http://usedcarking.c4c.sgizmo.com

thnx,
Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REMINDER! We need your C4C numbers, plz go to: <a href="http://usedcarking.c4c.sgizmo.com" rel="nofollow">http://usedcarking.c4c.sgizmo.com</a></p>
<p>thnx,<br />
Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pistell</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7130</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Pistell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

I am so glad you&#039;re here to contribute to our Dealer Refresh community effort.   

Gather your &quot;numerous studies&quot; on MPG induced driving behavior and be prepared to create a projection based on your findings. Be sure to include references. 

As you mentioned, you will be able to support you research on the costs and pollution of destroying these units. Again, be prepared to create a projection based on your findings. Be sure to include references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>I am so glad you&#8217;re here to contribute to our Dealer Refresh community effort.   </p>
<p>Gather your &#8220;numerous studies&#8221; on MPG induced driving behavior and be prepared to create a projection based on your findings. Be sure to include references. </p>
<p>As you mentioned, you will be able to support you research on the costs and pollution of destroying these units. Again, be prepared to create a projection based on your findings. Be sure to include references.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pistell</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cash-for-clunkers-environmental-impact/comment-page-1/#comment-7129</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Pistell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon DR community, we need your C4C stats! 

Cash for Clunkers overnight update:

2,112 clunker sales recorded:
--MPG Clunkers: 16.15
--MPG Noobs: 25.35
--Change: 9.2 mpg

WOW, on pace to save 250 MILLION gallons of gas per year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon DR community, we need your C4C stats! </p>
<p>Cash for Clunkers overnight update:</p>
<p>2,112 clunker sales recorded:<br />
&#8211;MPG Clunkers: 16.15<br />
&#8211;MPG Noobs: 25.35<br />
&#8211;Change: 9.2 mpg</p>
<p>WOW, on pace to save 250 MILLION gallons of gas per year.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Koller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Koller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your math assumes that people will drive the exact same mileage with their new more fuel-efficient vehicle.  I believe this is an incorrect assumption.  There are numerous studies that indicate people drive more when their vehicle is more fuel-efficient.  Second, you need to take into account the fuel and CO2 emissions needed to destroy the clunkers.  Don&#039;t want to criticize your work as I think it&#039;s a great idea, but I believe your end results would not be very &quot;factual.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your math assumes that people will drive the exact same mileage with their new more fuel-efficient vehicle.  I believe this is an incorrect assumption.  There are numerous studies that indicate people drive more when their vehicle is more fuel-efficient.  Second, you need to take into account the fuel and CO2 emissions needed to destroy the clunkers.  Don&#8217;t want to criticize your work as I think it&#8217;s a great idea, but I believe your end results would not be very &#8220;factual.&#8221;</p>
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