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	<title>Comments on: General Motors and Cobalt Websites-The Big Rip Off and the Slow Deception</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6402</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to comment and say that My outlook on Cobalt has not changed and I cannot believe they continue to use a PPC campaign in dealers names, it was my hope they would take a good hard look at it and use that money for a better marketing plan. But then maybe they are still working on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to comment and say that My outlook on Cobalt has not changed and I cannot believe they continue to use a PPC campaign in dealers names, it was my hope they would take a good hard look at it and use that money for a better marketing plan. But then maybe they are still working on it?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Snyder</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6116</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure GM did this because there were some lines about a conspiracy in the original article.  If it were just a criticism of the program through CoBalt and a request for more options (as many of us have made toward other OEM&#039;s) GM would not have spent the time and resources on this subject matter.

I&#039;m positive it was the conspiracy theory that pushed them to spend depleting assets in an effort to avoid a possible public relations nightmare that may have ended up on CNN.  It had to be a very significant threat to spend any time/effort/money on something like this right now.

Or it could cost GM more money to sever ties with CoBalt and spend resources on sourcing other site hosting companies.  They figure the efforts used to put-down any kind of notions towards a change are well worth doing instead of chancing the consequences of having to spend more money on some little dealership websites.

As a taxpayer; an ignorant American, I have to create my own delusions these days to find any kind of comfort with these companies who are asking for my money.  Especially the ones who, in turn, spit on my American rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure GM did this because there were some lines about a conspiracy in the original article.  If it were just a criticism of the program through CoBalt and a request for more options (as many of us have made toward other OEM&#8217;s) GM would not have spent the time and resources on this subject matter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m positive it was the conspiracy theory that pushed them to spend depleting assets in an effort to avoid a possible public relations nightmare that may have ended up on CNN.  It had to be a very significant threat to spend any time/effort/money on something like this right now.</p>
<p>Or it could cost GM more money to sever ties with CoBalt and spend resources on sourcing other site hosting companies.  They figure the efforts used to put-down any kind of notions towards a change are well worth doing instead of chancing the consequences of having to spend more money on some little dealership websites.</p>
<p>As a taxpayer; an ignorant American, I have to create my own delusions these days to find any kind of comfort with these companies who are asking for my money.  Especially the ones who, in turn, spit on my American rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Martell</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6109</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Martell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Losing his job is best thing that could happen to someone that realizes their potential has been capped by a company so backward and doomed to failure as GM. 

Frank, &#039;tis a sign of things to come. If you want to survive this storm, &quot;you&#039;re gonna need a bigger boat!&quot; Once you go Jap, you&#039;ll never go back!

Then repost your article anywhere and everywhere you can!

Best of luck Frank. Jeff, you or Alex should have hired Frank and kept the article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Losing his job is best thing that could happen to someone that realizes their potential has been capped by a company so backward and doomed to failure as GM. </p>
<p>Frank, &#8217;tis a sign of things to come. If you want to survive this storm, &#8220;you&#8217;re gonna need a bigger boat!&#8221; Once you go Jap, you&#8217;ll never go back!</p>
<p>Then repost your article anywhere and everywhere you can!</p>
<p>Best of luck Frank. Jeff, you or Alex should have hired Frank and kept the article!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Kershner</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Kershner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous Car Guy - You&#039;re right about that but I had to make a call here. I didn&#039;t want anyone loose their job. I held onto it as long as I could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous Car Guy &#8211; You&#8217;re right about that but I had to make a call here. I didn&#8217;t want anyone loose their job. I held onto it as long as I could.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Car Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6103</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Car Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

It is a shame to see that the GM and Cobalt black hands of censorship has extended into DealerRefresh as well as the other places where Frank&#039;s article has since been rescinded... Can we think of a few other times in history when a major corporation has used threats and intimidation tactics to silence their critics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>It is a shame to see that the GM and Cobalt black hands of censorship has extended into DealerRefresh as well as the other places where Frank&#8217;s article has since been rescinded&#8230; Can we think of a few other times in history when a major corporation has used threats and intimidation tactics to silence their critics?</p>
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		<title>By: All Digital Dealer - Not a Myth &#124; Internet Sales Manager in Training</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6061</link>
		<dc:creator>All Digital Dealer - Not a Myth &#124; Internet Sales Manager in Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] helps put out another level of reach for them.  Some valid points are brought up in opposition in his rant but if the ISM would take as much zeal to make this pitfalls work for him versus ways to trash them [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] helps put out another level of reach for them.  Some valid points are brought up in opposition in his rant but if the ISM would take as much zeal to make this pitfalls work for him versus ways to trash them [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Schrader</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6015</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Schrader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this comes down to as I have said in the past is:  if you want to do something different then the dealer 5, 10, 15, etc miles away then do something different. 

On a national level, GM-Cobalt does not have the dealers best interest in mind. What about the areas you want to target and so forth? 

I have placed lengthy post on ADM on this subject. Feel free to check it out. ( Thats if it is still there and not removed lol! )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this comes down to as I have said in the past is:  if you want to do something different then the dealer 5, 10, 15, etc miles away then do something different. </p>
<p>On a national level, GM-Cobalt does not have the dealers best interest in mind. What about the areas you want to target and so forth? </p>
<p>I have placed lengthy post on ADM on this subject. Feel free to check it out. ( Thats if it is still there and not removed lol! )</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Car Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6007</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Car Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of how we look at GM&#039;s handling of their alliance with The Cobalt Group, we should probably take note when a company who is suckling from the American taxpayer after receiving assistance from the US Congress, stands up for what are basic American principles.  Such as Freedom of Speech, often defined as &quot;Liberty to express opinions and ideas without hindrance, and especially without fear of punishment.&quot;

Yet, GM has seen fit to contact Frank Davis&#039;s employer and threaten the dealership with adverse actions if Frank does not rescind or retract any criticism he has made about GM and their sole-supplier relationship with The Cobalt Group.  Is this the America we really want?  Where corporate egos can intimidate and silence their critics without need to defend or explain their actions?  Is this the type of intimidation and coercion that we want our government to support with taxpayer money?

In addition to threats and coercion applied to Frank Davis, other automotive professionals who have provided a platform for GM dealers to express their criticism of the GM and Cobalt partnership have had their jobs threatened and have been banned from doing any business with GM. For what? For simply allowing GM dealers to have freedom of speech and a venue with which to express their complaints.

General Motors and Cobalt are certainly free to run their very successful, dynamic and fast growing innovative companies any way they see fit, but when becoming a federally funded institution, which GM certainly is right now, shouldn&#039;t they be required to at least honor the constitutional and civil rights of their dealers and the people who work for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how we look at GM&#8217;s handling of their alliance with The Cobalt Group, we should probably take note when a company who is suckling from the American taxpayer after receiving assistance from the US Congress, stands up for what are basic American principles.  Such as Freedom of Speech, often defined as &#8220;Liberty to express opinions and ideas without hindrance, and especially without fear of punishment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet, GM has seen fit to contact Frank Davis&#8217;s employer and threaten the dealership with adverse actions if Frank does not rescind or retract any criticism he has made about GM and their sole-supplier relationship with The Cobalt Group.  Is this the America we really want?  Where corporate egos can intimidate and silence their critics without need to defend or explain their actions?  Is this the type of intimidation and coercion that we want our government to support with taxpayer money?</p>
<p>In addition to threats and coercion applied to Frank Davis, other automotive professionals who have provided a platform for GM dealers to express their criticism of the GM and Cobalt partnership have had their jobs threatened and have been banned from doing any business with GM. For what? For simply allowing GM dealers to have freedom of speech and a venue with which to express their complaints.</p>
<p>General Motors and Cobalt are certainly free to run their very successful, dynamic and fast growing innovative companies any way they see fit, but when becoming a federally funded institution, which GM certainly is right now, shouldn&#8217;t they be required to at least honor the constitutional and civil rights of their dealers and the people who work for them?</p>
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		<title>By: American Way</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6006</link>
		<dc:creator>American Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of how we look at GM&#039;s handling of their alliance with The Cobalt Group, we should probably take note when a company who is suckling from the American taxpayer after receiving assistance from the US Congress, stands up for what are basic American principles.  Such as Freedom of Speech, often defined as &quot;Liberty to express opinions and ideas without hindrance, and especially without fear of punishment.&quot;

Yet, GM has seen fit to contact Frank Davis&#039;s employer and threaten the dealership with adverse actions if Frank does not rescind or retract any criticism he has made about GM and their sole-supplier relationship with The Cobalt Group.  Is this the America we really want?  Where corporate egos can intimidate and silence their critics without need to defend or explain their actions?  Is this the type of intimidation and coercion that we want our government to support with taxpayer money?

In addition to threats and coercion applied to Frank Davis, other automotive professionals who have provided a platform for GM dealers to express their criticism of the GM and Cobalt partnership have had their jobs threatened and have been banned from doing any business with GM. For what? For simply allowing GM dealers to have freedom of speech and a venue with which to express their complaints.

General Motors and Cobalt are certainly free to run their very successful, dynamic and fast growing innovative companies any way they see fit, but when becoming a federally funded institution, which GM certainly is right now, shouldn&#039;t they be required to at least honor the constitutional and civil rights of their dealers and the people who work for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how we look at GM&#8217;s handling of their alliance with The Cobalt Group, we should probably take note when a company who is suckling from the American taxpayer after receiving assistance from the US Congress, stands up for what are basic American principles.  Such as Freedom of Speech, often defined as &#8220;Liberty to express opinions and ideas without hindrance, and especially without fear of punishment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet, GM has seen fit to contact Frank Davis&#8217;s employer and threaten the dealership with adverse actions if Frank does not rescind or retract any criticism he has made about GM and their sole-supplier relationship with The Cobalt Group.  Is this the America we really want?  Where corporate egos can intimidate and silence their critics without need to defend or explain their actions?  Is this the type of intimidation and coercion that we want our government to support with taxpayer money?</p>
<p>In addition to threats and coercion applied to Frank Davis, other automotive professionals who have provided a platform for GM dealers to express their criticism of the GM and Cobalt partnership have had their jobs threatened and have been banned from doing any business with GM. For what? For simply allowing GM dealers to have freedom of speech and a venue with which to express their complaints.</p>
<p>General Motors and Cobalt are certainly free to run their very successful, dynamic and fast growing innovative companies any way they see fit, but when becoming a federally funded institution, which GM certainly is right now, shouldn&#8217;t they be required to at least honor the constitutional and civil rights of their dealers and the people who work for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Ad Hustler</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/cobalt-gm-dealer-websites-ripoff/comment-page-1/#comment-6002</link>
		<dc:creator>Ad Hustler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an AWESOME explanation of The Cobalt/GM/Dealer relationship.  The whole situation is ridiculous.  A few points:

#1 - Bidding on the dealers name could be acceptable in SOME instances.  Let&#039;s say a 3rd party lead provider is bidding on a dealers name and coming up first.  You may want to take that position away from them with your own URL.  There are some much shadier and devious reasons you may want to own that spot yourself which I&#039;m not going to mention here.  Let&#039;s just suffice it to say that if you don&#039;t own spot #1 for your own name you are OUT OF YOUR MIND! (I&#039;ll explain this to Jeff privately if he wishes)

#2 - Did you know that if you don&#039;t have a Cobalt website, Cobalt (or Chevy) trademarked their name in Google making is super hard to run a PPC campaign if you don&#039;t direct the traffic to an official dealer domain (aka a cobalt website for the most part).  Why would you want to drive traffic to a URL unrecognized by chevy you may ask?  How about if you are setting up custom landing pages to do something a little different and change up your message...

I hope I have brought some ideas to the table here.  I&#039;m a search marketing superstar and always around to help cool folks like you.

Keep Hustlin&#039;
Ad Hustler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an AWESOME explanation of The Cobalt/GM/Dealer relationship.  The whole situation is ridiculous.  A few points:</p>
<p>#1 &#8211; Bidding on the dealers name could be acceptable in SOME instances.  Let&#8217;s say a 3rd party lead provider is bidding on a dealers name and coming up first.  You may want to take that position away from them with your own URL.  There are some much shadier and devious reasons you may want to own that spot yourself which I&#8217;m not going to mention here.  Let&#8217;s just suffice it to say that if you don&#8217;t own spot #1 for your own name you are OUT OF YOUR MIND! (I&#8217;ll explain this to Jeff privately if he wishes)</p>
<p>#2 &#8211; Did you know that if you don&#8217;t have a Cobalt website, Cobalt (or Chevy) trademarked their name in Google making is super hard to run a PPC campaign if you don&#8217;t direct the traffic to an official dealer domain (aka a cobalt website for the most part).  Why would you want to drive traffic to a URL unrecognized by chevy you may ask?  How about if you are setting up custom landing pages to do something a little different and change up your message&#8230;</p>
<p>I hope I have brought some ideas to the table here.  I&#8217;m a search marketing superstar and always around to help cool folks like you.</p>
<p>Keep Hustlin&#8217;<br />
Ad Hustler</p>
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