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		<title>By: johnpaul</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/social-networking-nielsen-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6494</link>
		<dc:creator>johnpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Twitter is awesome for Taking traffic to you website . It is very
simple to setup and its a fun positive way to keep in contact with
people. To get more followers on twitter check out this amazing
tool.&lt;a&gt;Twitter
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simple to setup and its a fun positive way to keep in contact with<br />
people. To get more followers on twitter check out this amazing<br />
tool.<a>Twitter<br />
Traffic Machine</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Book</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/social-networking-nielsen-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6408</link>
		<dc:creator>David Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE: Good news. I wrote a blog-post the other day about how to &quot;Lose a Few Thousands Bucks Online&quot;  (posted on my site and a few others) that chronicled the age-old ignore the customer request, lose the deal scenario. The results are in.. here&#039;s what happened...

1) Hung out with buddy that wanted a car
2) He complained about getting ignored by local dealers after requesting information via their websites (luxury brand)
3) He asked me to &quot;help him.&quot;
4) I called a local dealer (my buddies)
5) We sold him a car (4k gross)
6) He Tweeted about his &quot;new ride.&quot; 
7) Two people that &quot;follow him&quot; on Twitter have called the same salesperson for a &quot;like deal.&quot;

So... we can decide to like or dislike the technology but we cannot decide if our customers do. People are doing this, it&#039;s just the way it is. Some things are out of our control and trying to force people to communicate in ways that they do not decide is bad - super bad.

Like Ralph mentioned earlier....RELATIONSHIPS = GROSS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: Good news. I wrote a blog-post the other day about how to &#8220;Lose a Few Thousands Bucks Online&#8221;  (posted on my site and a few others) that chronicled the age-old ignore the customer request, lose the deal scenario. The results are in.. here&#8217;s what happened&#8230;</p>
<p>1) Hung out with buddy that wanted a car<br />
2) He complained about getting ignored by local dealers after requesting information via their websites (luxury brand)<br />
3) He asked me to &#8220;help him.&#8221;<br />
4) I called a local dealer (my buddies)<br />
5) We sold him a car (4k gross)<br />
6) He Tweeted about his &#8220;new ride.&#8221;<br />
7) Two people that &#8220;follow him&#8221; on Twitter have called the same salesperson for a &#8220;like deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>So&#8230; we can decide to like or dislike the technology but we cannot decide if our customers do. People are doing this, it&#8217;s just the way it is. Some things are out of our control and trying to force people to communicate in ways that they do not decide is bad &#8211; super bad.</p>
<p>Like Ralph mentioned earlier&#8230;.RELATIONSHIPS = GROSS!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Pistell</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/social-networking-nielsen-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6389</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Pistell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Twitter Impacts Relevance Like I Impact Gravity&quot;

Gawd, I wish I wrote that headline.  

http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/twitter-impacts-relevance-like-i-impact-gravity

I fell off my chair with his new google rank schemes.

enjoy!
Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Twitter Impacts Relevance Like I Impact Gravity&#8221;</p>
<p>Gawd, I wish I wrote that headline.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/twitter-impacts-relevance-like-i-impact-gravity" rel="nofollow">http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/twitter-impacts-relevance-like-i-impact-gravity</a></p>
<p>I fell off my chair with his new google rank schemes.</p>
<p>enjoy!<br />
Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Paglia</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/social-networking-nielsen-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6361</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Paglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe Diaz (and Jeff K),

I started selling cars in 1981, and I am about as grizzled a veteran as any of the other old timers pushing iron over the curb these days... Even a knucklehead like me figured out over 20 years ago that RELATIONSHIP = GROSS! My first wife once told me what an idiot I was when I explained that CSI is determined by gross profit... Because when CSI reports first took hold I immediately saw that the highest gross deals we made generated the highest CSI scores... Doh... She was right (only time!), the gross was generated because there was a good relationship foundation!  The customer ALLOWS us to earn a respectable profit margin WHEN A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN CREATED. Yes, I know car guys like Joe probably think that they are sooooooooo crafty and cunning that any high gross deals they generate are through slight of hand... NOT. Talk to the guys selling cars at Acton Toyota in MA about how the deal works when a customer drives 100 miles, past 8 other Toyota stores to buy a car from Acton Toyota because of the 200+ Positive reviews that consumers have created on DealerRater.com at the request of their salesperson... BECAUSE they had a relationship with that car salesman!  When I first started selling cars, my mentor would wack me with his crutches (bad knees after 30 years on the blacktop) and tell me to stop selling cars and start building relationships with customers FIRST... He would ask me, &quot;whattaya wanna be, an order taker? &#039;cause there&#039;s no gross in taking orders, and i ain&#039;t splitting no minnies with you, so start selling yourself before you distract these ups with the damn car!&quot;.  

Anybody who does not understand the types of differentiation that Jeff commented on is doomed to a career (or lack of) of minimum commission, low CSI and job dissatisfaction... You know when I REALLY think a deal is real?  When i hear the salesperson laughing along with the customers as they are writing up a worksheet!  People don&#039;t laugh with car salesman, they might laugh at us, but they do laugh WITH professionals they have come to trust, respect and want to do business with... When was the last time you got a referral, someone you never met before and it was the easiest deal that month?  Why, because you had a head start on building a relationship based on the transference of &quot;relationship equity&quot; from the person who sent his/her friend to you as a referral... Personally, the last car I bought was a used Ford Expedition, and i know I paid about a grand more than I could have paid, so that i could buy it from a manager I trust who works at a dealership that has treated me well as a supplier... It&#039;s ALL ABOUT RELATIONSHIP, or you can take orders for mini deals... You pick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe Diaz (and Jeff K),</p>
<p>I started selling cars in 1981, and I am about as grizzled a veteran as any of the other old timers pushing iron over the curb these days&#8230; Even a knucklehead like me figured out over 20 years ago that RELATIONSHIP = GROSS! My first wife once told me what an idiot I was when I explained that CSI is determined by gross profit&#8230; Because when CSI reports first took hold I immediately saw that the highest gross deals we made generated the highest CSI scores&#8230; Doh&#8230; She was right (only time!), the gross was generated because there was a good relationship foundation!  The customer ALLOWS us to earn a respectable profit margin WHEN A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN CREATED. Yes, I know car guys like Joe probably think that they are sooooooooo crafty and cunning that any high gross deals they generate are through slight of hand&#8230; NOT. Talk to the guys selling cars at Acton Toyota in MA about how the deal works when a customer drives 100 miles, past 8 other Toyota stores to buy a car from Acton Toyota because of the 200+ Positive reviews that consumers have created on DealerRater.com at the request of their salesperson&#8230; BECAUSE they had a relationship with that car salesman!  When I first started selling cars, my mentor would wack me with his crutches (bad knees after 30 years on the blacktop) and tell me to stop selling cars and start building relationships with customers FIRST&#8230; He would ask me, &#8220;whattaya wanna be, an order taker? &#8217;cause there&#8217;s no gross in taking orders, and i ain&#8217;t splitting no minnies with you, so start selling yourself before you distract these ups with the damn car!&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Anybody who does not understand the types of differentiation that Jeff commented on is doomed to a career (or lack of) of minimum commission, low CSI and job dissatisfaction&#8230; You know when I REALLY think a deal is real?  When i hear the salesperson laughing along with the customers as they are writing up a worksheet!  People don&#8217;t laugh with car salesman, they might laugh at us, but they do laugh WITH professionals they have come to trust, respect and want to do business with&#8230; When was the last time you got a referral, someone you never met before and it was the easiest deal that month?  Why, because you had a head start on building a relationship based on the transference of &#8220;relationship equity&#8221; from the person who sent his/her friend to you as a referral&#8230; Personally, the last car I bought was a used Ford Expedition, and i know I paid about a grand more than I could have paid, so that i could buy it from a manager I trust who works at a dealership that has treated me well as a supplier&#8230; It&#8217;s ALL ABOUT RELATIONSHIP, or you can take orders for mini deals&#8230; You pick!</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Paglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Paglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan and Alex,

Thank you for your responses and commentary... It is good to know that I am not the ONLY car guy crazy looking at Web 2.0 from a relationship marketing perspective.  Now, please don&#039;t get me wrong, I have used various social networking sites as advertising venues and have seen some successes in driving traffic to dealer sites that turned out to be far more qualified than I had initially expected... BUT, and this is a big butt (he he he), From just a few direct experiences from some prototypes and experiemnts, the power of &quot;word of mouth&quot; when the web is used to propogate it more effectively than offline ever did, can be truly amazing... And scary!  Heck, just look at RipOffReport.com for the scary side.  Yet, even with a stumbling and bumbling, haphazard, making a lot of guesses and trying stuff never done by dealers before, I have one dealer I work with who SWEARS he is selling 3 to 5 additional vehicles each week from the UGC/Web 2.0 experimentation we are doing for his store... And, I figure it must be true (he may be low-balling me) because his wife is the store&#039;s controller, who can&#039;t stand what they pay me per diem, AND she gave me a big hug during my last visit, and took me out for a nice seaside dinner, and picked up the check... Dealers buying dinner for me is proof enough that we as professionals have only scratched the surface of what is possible... Ya&#039; think I&#039;m leaving money on the table with my first dealer community, social networking success story? LOL... Truth be known, I think i would have PAID to see something with UGC/Web 2.0 actually generate some car sales!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan and Alex,</p>
<p>Thank you for your responses and commentary&#8230; It is good to know that I am not the ONLY car guy crazy looking at Web 2.0 from a relationship marketing perspective.  Now, please don&#8217;t get me wrong, I have used various social networking sites as advertising venues and have seen some successes in driving traffic to dealer sites that turned out to be far more qualified than I had initially expected&#8230; BUT, and this is a big butt (he he he), From just a few direct experiences from some prototypes and experiemnts, the power of &#8220;word of mouth&#8221; when the web is used to propogate it more effectively than offline ever did, can be truly amazing&#8230; And scary!  Heck, just look at RipOffReport.com for the scary side.  Yet, even with a stumbling and bumbling, haphazard, making a lot of guesses and trying stuff never done by dealers before, I have one dealer I work with who SWEARS he is selling 3 to 5 additional vehicles each week from the UGC/Web 2.0 experimentation we are doing for his store&#8230; And, I figure it must be true (he may be low-balling me) because his wife is the store&#8217;s controller, who can&#8217;t stand what they pay me per diem, AND she gave me a big hug during my last visit, and took me out for a nice seaside dinner, and picked up the check&#8230; Dealers buying dinner for me is proof enough that we as professionals have only scratched the surface of what is possible&#8230; Ya&#8217; think I&#8217;m leaving money on the table with my first dealer community, social networking success story? LOL&#8230; Truth be known, I think i would have PAID to see something with UGC/Web 2.0 actually generate some car sales!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry K</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/social-networking-nielsen-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6353</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line; all the social networking sites have to be profitable in the long term they want to stay alive. They have to generate a revenue stream from businesses that have the dollars to spend. If they do indeed send buyers, willing to purchase and the ROI is there... why not use this as a medium. its inevitable and becoming acceptable as a method to provide the content and web-usage with advertising and visibility as a trade-off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line; all the social networking sites have to be profitable in the long term they want to stay alive. They have to generate a revenue stream from businesses that have the dollars to spend. If they do indeed send buyers, willing to purchase and the ROI is there&#8230; why not use this as a medium. its inevitable and becoming acceptable as a method to provide the content and web-usage with advertising and visibility as a trade-off.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom  Berry</title>
		<link>http://www.dealerrefresh.com/social-networking-nielsen-study/comment-page-1/#comment-6352</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom  Berry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Networking is not new. It’s been around forever - face-to-face, letter writing, telephone conferences, parties, luncheons, seminars, on and on. “Online” Social Networking is what’s new. It’s a way to use today’s technology to meet new people, reconnect with old friends, gather opinions, and get recommendations. Would you wear a banner ad around your neck when you go to a networking event or party? Then why would you do it on LinkedIn or Facebook? What has more value to a dealership, a little ad on a few profiles or 50 people saying what a great company they are? It’s all about relationships and credibility – not in-your-face advertising.

Use the online networking sites to position dealership executives, management, and staff as trusted, knowledgeable resources for purchasing new and pre-owned vehicles, financing, parts, service, and related products. Create, monitor, and manage, online ratings and reviews that can positively promote a dealership&#039;s reputation. Connect with people online to provide a source of referrals, recommendations, customer testimonials, and Internet visibility.

When you do advertise, create awareness of a dealership&#039;s unique features, benefits, inventory, and outstanding customer service through highly targeted traditional, Internet and mobile media campaigns. Use digital and traditional advertising to drive customers to a usable, useful, and enjoyable website and one that embraces online social networking. Use an advertising agency that knows how to help you connect online AND off. If you have an agency that doesn’t, or need one that does, email me - tberry@thetitanagency.com.

Here are a couple of recent articles in which I am extensively quoted about this very topic.

Automotive News March 16, 2009
&quot;Studies: Luxury car shoppers on Web want instant info.&quot;
https://home.autonews.com/clickshare/readLink.do?CSAuthKey=n0JWd7kdRFQ-q_DW2o1hGPQ-0

Dealer.com Newsletter - Power to the Dealer April 7, 2009
&quot;The Titan Agency Surveyed 50 Luxury Brand Dealerships&quot;
http://newsletter.dealer.com/e_article001394623.cfm?x=bfmQfGf,bb10mFCv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social Networking is not new. It’s been around forever &#8211; face-to-face, letter writing, telephone conferences, parties, luncheons, seminars, on and on. “Online” Social Networking is what’s new. It’s a way to use today’s technology to meet new people, reconnect with old friends, gather opinions, and get recommendations. Would you wear a banner ad around your neck when you go to a networking event or party? Then why would you do it on LinkedIn or Facebook? What has more value to a dealership, a little ad on a few profiles or 50 people saying what a great company they are? It’s all about relationships and credibility – not in-your-face advertising.</p>
<p>Use the online networking sites to position dealership executives, management, and staff as trusted, knowledgeable resources for purchasing new and pre-owned vehicles, financing, parts, service, and related products. Create, monitor, and manage, online ratings and reviews that can positively promote a dealership&#8217;s reputation. Connect with people online to provide a source of referrals, recommendations, customer testimonials, and Internet visibility.</p>
<p>When you do advertise, create awareness of a dealership&#8217;s unique features, benefits, inventory, and outstanding customer service through highly targeted traditional, Internet and mobile media campaigns. Use digital and traditional advertising to drive customers to a usable, useful, and enjoyable website and one that embraces online social networking. Use an advertising agency that knows how to help you connect online AND off. If you have an agency that doesn’t, or need one that does, email me &#8211; <a href="mailto:tberry@thetitanagency.com">tberry@thetitanagency.com</a>.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of recent articles in which I am extensively quoted about this very topic.</p>
<p>Automotive News March 16, 2009<br />
&#8220;Studies: Luxury car shoppers on Web want instant info.&#8221;<br />
<a href="https://home.autonews.com/clickshare/readLink.do?CSAuthKey=n0JWd7kdRFQ-q_DW2o1hGPQ-0" rel="nofollow">https://home.autonews.com/clickshare/readLink.do?CSAuthKey=n0JWd7kdRFQ-q_DW2o1hGPQ-0</a></p>
<p>Dealer.com Newsletter &#8211; Power to the Dealer April 7, 2009<br />
&#8220;The Titan Agency Surveyed 50 Luxury Brand Dealerships&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://newsletter.dealer.com/e_article001394623.cfm?x=bfmQfGf,bb10mFCv" rel="nofollow">http://newsletter.dealer.com/e_article001394623.cfm?x=bfmQfGf,bb10mFCv</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ken Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have delved into this exciting phenom, I realize it is one of the big waves that rock our world from time to time (fax, cellphone, internet, etc). It will not go away,; it will integrate into daily life for most.
As I meet with dealers and dealer associations, the curiosity factor is enormous. The acceptance factor is very low. The desire to understand and choose whether or how to apply is huge. As I research automotive on Twitter, Facebook and linkedIn, I see the early adopters using trial and error to make business sense of these new tools.
My primary focus is to get dealers to high proficiency in existing proven tools first, then add the SMM stuff as a way to leverage their use of the technology to build community and spread their web presence.
I&#039;m looking forward to learning from the gurus at the Digital Dealer Conference in Vegas later this month, as to what works in selling more cars..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have delved into this exciting phenom, I realize it is one of the big waves that rock our world from time to time (fax, cellphone, internet, etc). It will not go away,; it will integrate into daily life for most.<br />
As I meet with dealers and dealer associations, the curiosity factor is enormous. The acceptance factor is very low. The desire to understand and choose whether or how to apply is huge. As I research automotive on Twitter, Facebook and linkedIn, I see the early adopters using trial and error to make business sense of these new tools.<br />
My primary focus is to get dealers to high proficiency in existing proven tools first, then add the SMM stuff as a way to leverage their use of the technology to build community and spread their web presence.<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to learning from the gurus at the Digital Dealer Conference in Vegas later this month, as to what works in selling more cars..</p>
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		<title>By: Walt Kustra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt Kustra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social networking sites the new CRM?  Maybe? I would never have thought of it that way, but after reading the last few posts on here I certainly have a different perspective.  This is coming from a guy who uses both daily (not at the same time of course ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social networking sites the new CRM?  Maybe? I would never have thought of it that way, but after reading the last few posts on here I certainly have a different perspective.  This is coming from a guy who uses both daily (not at the same time of course <img src='http://www.dealerrefresh.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ralph&lt;/b&gt; - Ryan hit it on the head.  It is a supplement to CRM that can be used in accordance with CRM if the CRM process implementer knows his/her stuff.  Now talk about sounding too technical!

Social Networking is like Public Relations on speed.  If you design your message effectively, you can have the world spread it for you in minutes.  You&#039;re not going to reach everyone the TV would reach, but you&#039;re going to have &quot;fans&quot; working for you that you don&#039;t have to pay!  

This is how social networking can be capitalized on.  BUT, you need to be very careful in how you approach it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ralph</b> &#8211; Ryan hit it on the head.  It is a supplement to CRM that can be used in accordance with CRM if the CRM process implementer knows his/her stuff.  Now talk about sounding too technical!</p>
<p>Social Networking is like Public Relations on speed.  If you design your message effectively, you can have the world spread it for you in minutes.  You&#8217;re not going to reach everyone the TV would reach, but you&#8217;re going to have &#8220;fans&#8221; working for you that you don&#8217;t have to pay!  </p>
<p>This is how social networking can be capitalized on.  BUT, you need to be very careful in how you approach it.</p>
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